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Old Yesterday, 12:22 PM

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The last time this happened was at Kent Narrows. I followed the case to see what would happen to the accused. He didn't even show up for the trial.

The accused gave the NRP officer a false name.

Anyone care to bet on the turn out of this one?

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They need trackers on those boats and better reporting. Maybe rec check in stations should be an option as well.

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A game warden can impound your truck if they find an illegal deer. Why not a boat for that many fish ?

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Third World Fishing Tournaments have been going on for years in Maryland. I have witnessed this type of behavior way too many times. We need more DNR Officers to catch these guys. Most of the times I have seen this happen is with Shore bound fishermen. I have called the DNR Poacher line several times but I do not think it has done any good. I live in the largest County in Maryland that is surrounded by the Chesapeake and Tributaries. Almost all the time there is only 1 DNR Officer on duty at any time on land. During the weekends there is another on duty on the water and covers a huge area. There are 3 places within 10 minutes of my house and I bet I can find guys with undersized rock and too many fish 80% of the time on weekends and summer nights.


I seem to remember a bill in this past Maryland legislature that would have solved some of the manpower shortage in the NRP. A small fee from every user of the Chesapeake, going to law enforcement.

The CCA and MSSA were against the fee.

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Come on BF, you're not gonna tag this guy as a comm....you're one now for Pete's sake.

The rodeo clowns on TF tried to paint this as a commercial fisherman on TF, because if you don't have a Rec license and catch large numbers of fish, you must be selling them.........and, it goes in the books as a commercial violation. Strictly semantics and not worthy of the Comm/Rec debate.

Why don't we just call this guy a poacher, and leave the Rec/Comm tag off completely. And it's not just the Latinos, but those that are from other countries that have to fish to survive are much more prone to these actions.

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Well I think that is one thing we can all agree on. We all hate poachers.

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Come on BF, you're not gonna tag this guy as a comm....

Strictly semantics and not worthy of the Comm/Rec debate.

Why don't we just call this guy a poacher, and leave the Rec/Comm tag off completely.

I dont know if the guys intentions were to sell them or not so I am not pinning to any user group. I just dont believe he was doing it for sport or recreation. Most likely to feed his family and or community.

He is definately a poacher; One who should have been carted directly to jail until bond money could have been posted so that he shows up for court. If he can't post bail, some time in the pokey where he cannot work for a few days or go home to his family and friends may serve as a good deterrent for the future. At what level this should happen, I dont know but this violation definately crosses any reasonable line.


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I seem to remember a bill in this past Maryland legislature that would have solved some of the manpower shortage in the NRP. A small fee from every user of the Chesapeake, going to law enforcement.

The CCA and MSSA were against the fee.


You are correct CCA & MSSA were against it.
The commercial watermans associations were for it, even though not one dollar would go to the (BS) watermans deficit.

In my mind it showed that the local conservation organizations are more concerned with membership dollars than making unpopular decisions on things that actually help.

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BF -

The license increase was specifically budgeted for the hire of 100 new DNR enforcement officers.

What you ramble about above is the hypocrisy that is associated with your name. You (when I say you I also mean MSSA, CCA and the TF-idiots) clamor the need for increased enforcement but think the $$ should come from the sky? Maybe you guys don't understand government budgeting process? Just because an agency has a surplus doesn?t mean it can be legally allocated to a specific line item. This is especially true in fisheries management where State and Federal monies are involved.

You have said that there needs to be better protection of under-sized and small rockfish to protect the population from long-term decline. Also recognize the widely recognized fact that the recreational fishery has a problem with illegal fishing spurred by virtually-zilch enforcement the solution is increased enforcement presence yet you are opposed? Why? The extra $10 is minimal charge. I don't get it. Please don't explain ..... your ramblings are painful enough when offered unsolicited.

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Read the name of the boat owner and look at all involved. A 14ft boat with three on board and all that fish, those guys were lucky they made it back to the dock. I have no idea if the perps were legal or illegal themselves and most likely they have no regard for laws but were probably supplying many friends and family with the illegal catch.

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Chris, I must note the consistant arrogant tone of most of your posts. It clearly paints the picture of your character and gives understanding to why you have been banned from several boating sites, including this one for a bit.

Going against my better judgement in dignifying your post, I will merely give you a portion of the bills own fiscal and policy notes:

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Based on DNR?s actual experience with fee increases in 2007, DNR estimates that the establishment of a $10 surcharge will reduce recreational fishing license revenues by approximately 11%. Based on recreational license fee revenues from the 2011-2012 fishing season, license fee revenues decrease by an estimated $721,600 in fiscal 2014 (due to the bill?s effective date) and by an estimated $902,000 annually thereafter. As a result, DNR?s Fisheries Service will need to reduce its expenditures.
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The bill has a significant impact on small fishing businesses and other small businesses in the fishing industry. Because a new fee is established, the bill has a negative impact on, among others, the approximately 5,480 watermen with commercial fishing licenses. Also, DNR works with agents, which in most cases are small businesses, to issue fishing licenses. To the extent increasing the fees for fishing licenses leads to a decrease in licenses issued, there may be an indirect negative impact on hotels, restaurants, and retailers.
I do not believe even DNR supported the bill... the money wasnt going to fall from the sky either. There were other DNR funding bills in the legislature at the same time. It was a good effort in trying to portray the sport fishing community in a bad light though.


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